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The Epsom Derby Options
Iain Turner
#1 Posted : Monday, May 10, 2010 12:13:10 PM
David Campese



Joined: 1/31/2008
Posts: 328
Location: London

 
Less than four weeks to The Derby and after a handful of supposed trials over the past week there is nothing which has stood out as a winner of the Epsom Classic on the first Saturday in June.

However, all might change on Wednesday after The Dante which, is possibly the best Derby trial, is run at York Racecourse. Despite declarations not being through until tomorrow a quick look at the entries marks it down as another top class renewal. Only one of the entries has a handicap mark of below 100 and with two entries from Aiden O Brien, three entries from Godolphin and others from Sir Michael Stoute, Barry Hills and Michael Bell it should be the race that defines the market.

The favourite at the moment on www.wbx.com is St Nicholas Abbey which has to be because of reputation, connections and existing liabilities for the layers rather than his performance on the track as a three year old. Prior to the 2000 Guineas at Newmarket people were claiming him to be the best ever blah blah blah and he disappointed to a certain extent when finishing fifth in the first Classic of the season. His supporters claim that the trip was too short, there was not sufficient pace and his yard were out of form whilst the doubters just had him marked down as another Coolmore hype horse.

I am not sure which camp I fall into but at his current price on www.wbx.com I would certainly prefer to lay him than back him.

A victory for an Aiden O Brien horse in the race could see him shorten further as they will surely claim St Nicholas Abbey is better than him. A comprehensive defeat for Cape Blanco or Viscount Nelson (whichever is declared with Cape Blanco looking likelier at this stage) will see further question marks over his position at the head of the market.

Workforce is second favourite on www.wbx.com at the moment for The Derby and this once raced son of Kings Best is entered for York on Wednesday. With Ryan Moore already `jocked up` it looks likely that he will make his seasonal reappearance and his performance will have a big effect on the market.

The horse who he beat six lengths last year on his debut at Goodwoood, Oasis Dancer, has come out and won the Timeform Millions and has followed that up with a victory as a three year old. Workforce is out of a sister to Brian Boru, who won the St Leger so the step up in trip shouldn’t prove to be any problem for him.

He will not be fully primed up for his seasonal reappearance on Thursday but with question marks over the favourite I am prepared to use Workforce as a trading proposition. I doubt he will be his current price on www.wbx.com after The Dante.

The third favourite on www.wbx.com is Chabal and at the prices this one interests me the most. He, like Workforce, is entered in The Dante on Thursday and an impressive performance there could see him vying for favouritism. He has already ran (and won) this season when winning the Sandown Classic Trial and the horse he beat, Azmeel, has come out and won The Dee Stakes at Chester.

Throughout his two year old career he was hyped as the best horse Jim Bolger had ever trained. I considered this to be hype after a couple of defeats but after the performance at Sandown the early hype might be proved correct. It is certainly an interesting claim given than Bolger has trained Finsceal Beo and New Approach to Classic glory in recent seasons. I think he is worth backing for The Derby now as I expect a good run on Thursday.

The fourth favourite on www.wbx.com is Midas Touch who won the Derrinstown Derby Trial at Leopardstown yesterday. The time was certainly impressive but I was not happy with the attitude of the eventual second and think Midas Touch, despite running well, wont be up to winning The Epsom Derby. His claims further enhanced the chances, albeit on paper, of St Nicholas Abbey who is rumoured to be the best three year old trained by Aiden O Brien.

The fifth favourite on www.wbx.com is Bullet Train who won The Lingfield Derby Trial impressively on Saturday. However, he is far from a certain runner after connections considered him to inexperienced immediately after his victory on Saturday. With Khalid Abdullah already having Workforce in the race I think his participation will hinge on his performance in The Derby. If Workforce disappoints then Bullet Train’s chance of running improves whereas if he runs well then I think Bullet Train will be kept for another day.

The other two horses who should run in The Dante who are of interest are Coordinated Cut and Cape Blanco. Cape Blanco represents Coolmore and a good performance by him should see St Nicholas Abbey shorten in the betting. However, Coolmore are known for saddling more than one in The Derby itself and it could pay to look away from St Nicholas Abbey as his price is looking increasingly short.

Coordinated Cut is definitely of interest. Prior to his debut last year people were already backing him for Derby success this year. He won his debut and then disappointed on his final start as a two year old last year. He was then moved out of Peter Chapple Hyam’s and into Michael Bell’s, who won The Derby with Motivator a few years ago. On his first start for Bell he won the valuable Tattersalls race at Newmarket when staying on strongly to beat Ameer. His fitness is assured but I am not sure he has the class to win a Derby. After Thursday I might have changed my opinion and will leave him at his current price whilst being prepared to take shorter should he run well.

Advice

Lay St Nicholas Abbey
Back Workforce (Lay after race for stake if he runs well)
Back Chabal

The market on www.wbx.com


Sat Jun 5 - The Derby

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Iain Turner
#2 Posted : Monday, May 10, 2010 12:19:50 PM
David Campese



Joined: 1/31/2008
Posts: 328
Location: London

 
From the Racing Post today

Derby hope Workforce ready for Dante test

By Tom Kerr 12:04PM 10 MAY 2010 SIR MICHAEL STOUTE delivered a cautiously optimistic update about Investec Derby second-favourite Workforce on Monday ahead of his seasonal debut in Thursday's Totesport Dante Stakes at York.


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Workforce, who was a six-length victor in a Goodwood maiden last September on his soleracecourse appearance, is a standout 10-1 with Paddy Power for the Epsom Classic but is as short as 6-1 in places.


Stoute said: "We are keen to get Workforce's season started. He is not spectacular at home but he has been giving us more encouragement of late. He is a big horse and first time up we would not want ground that is too fast."

Fellow Derby hopes Coordinated Cut, Chabal and Cape Blanco could all face Workforce in the Dante, for which sponsors Totesport make the Stoute-runner and Chabal 5-2 joint favourites.

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Iain Turner
#3 Posted : Tuesday, May 11, 2010 9:43:59 AM
David Campese



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Posts: 328
Location: London

 
What a field for the Dante at York

1
(1)
Cape Blanco (IRE)
A. P. O'Brien, Ireland
9st 0lb
Johnny Murtagh

2
(4)
Chabal (IRE) (Tongue Strap)
Saeed bin Suroor
9st 0lb
Frankie Dettori

3
(3)
Circumvent
P. F. I. Cole
9st 0lb
Paul Hanagan

4
(2)
Coordinated Cut (IRE)
M. L. W. Bell
9st 0lb
Jamie Spencer

5
(6)
Fair Trade
D. R. C. Elsworth
9st 0lb
Jimmy Fortune

6
(5)
Workforce
Sir Michael Stoute
9st 0lb
Ryan Moore

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Iain Turner
#4 Posted : Thursday, May 13, 2010 2:10:56 PM
David Campese



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Posts: 328
Location: London

 
Chabal stuffed in The Dante.

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Globetrotter
#5 Posted : Wednesday, May 19, 2010 10:48:48 AM
Jean Van De Velde



Joined: 12/13/2007
Posts: 77

 
With most of the trials over with (and I don't imagine anything will come out of today's Cocked Hat @ Goodwood) the market seems to have taken some shape.

I am amazed that St Nicholas is still such a short priced favourite, O'Brien's opinion aside he was pretty disappointing in the 2000 Guineas so I will happily bet against him.

Cape Blanco looked really good in the Dante, and if history has told us anything - Coordinated Cut, Workforce and the disappointing Chabal can now be ruled out completely. But again, O'Brien (with one win in England) still favours Abbey - I assume Murtagh will ride him on June 5th?

I personally think I will favour Bullet Train, Cecil is on fire at the minute and his victory at Lingfield was surely the most impressive win in a trial this season.

It should be quite an intriguing contest this year and I will take 10s about Bullet Train and hope he does indeed line up at Epsom Downs.
Iain Turner
#6 Posted : Wednesday, May 19, 2010 12:41:01 PM
David Campese



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Posts: 328
Location: London

 
Latest news suggests that Bullet Train will run in The Derby.

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ChelseaChelsea
#7 Posted : Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:20:43 PM
Gary Kasparov



Joined: 9/20/2005
Posts: 2,214
Location: Chelsea, London SW6

 
Azmeel was 29's now in to 15.5. Tipped up Ante Post in the Racing Post but Gosden hasn't uttered a single word about it. Hmmmmm.

Looks like Chabal is a non-runner now and the race is wide open.

I was very sweet on St Nicholas Abbey before the Guineas, but the money was lost before the 2 furlong pole and he must now be opposed at the price despite what O'Brien has said.

Bullet Train and Midas Touch remain of interest.

KTBFFH!
Iain Turner
#8 Posted : Monday, June 07, 2010 10:07:25 AM
David Campese



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Posts: 328
Location: London

 
Workforce was an impressive winner on Saturday.

Cant help but thinking though he was a good winner of a poor race. At the moment cant be having the Classic generation against the older horses and will be more than happy looking at Fame And Glory et al in The Eclipse/King George.

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rahinajoseph
#9 Posted : Friday, July 30, 2010 6:56:06 AM
Jean Louis Ravello

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#10 Posted : Monday, November 01, 2010 12:27:21 PM
Jean Louis Ravello

Joined: 10/25/2010
Posts: 16

 
2011 Epsom Derby is a long way out but it seems Frankel has had a great campaign as a two-year old and motivate now as the clear favorite for next year race.

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