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Brian Lara  Joined: 9/24/2005 Posts: 3,368 Location: Australia  
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I haven't seen all the games so can't comment on all of them, but I've seen a number of matches and the umpiring seems to be getting worse. So inconsistent, one free is paid on one end, then a different umpire will let the same thing go. IMO we've had at least 2 game results that have been effected directly as a result of a bad free kick - The Richmond game (deliberate out of bounds against McGuane was paid late in the game which led to an equalising goal to St Kilda), and there was one late in the Sydney/Essendon game where a free kick was paid to Sydney in their forward 50 for pretty much nothing (sorry can't remember specifics) that resulted in a goal that put them in front with only minutes remaining. Now I know that umps generally get a bad rep, and a lot of the time its unjustified, but I would like to hear what ppl think of standards so far. Has this season been a step backwards? Is it rust in the first few rounds? Am I overreacting?
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Ian Thorpe  Joined: 1/18/2007 Posts: 5,789
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RudeNuT wrote:I haven't seen all the games so can't comment on all of them, but I've seen a number of matches and the umpiring seems to be getting worse.
So inconsistent, one free is paid on one end, then a different umpire will let the same thing go.
IMO we've had at least 2 game results that have been effected directly as a result of a bad free kick - The Richmond game (deliberate out of bounds against McGuane was paid late in the game which led to an equalising goal to St Kilda), and there was one late in the Sydney/Essendon game where a free kick was paid to Sydney in their forward 50 for pretty much nothing (sorry can't remember specifics) that resulted in a goal that put them in front with only minutes remaining.
Now I know that umps generally get a bad rep, and a lot of the time its unjustified, but I would like to hear what ppl think of standards so far.
Has this season been a step backwards? Is it rust in the first few rounds?
Am I overreacting? Essendon/ Sydney game was against Hardingham. Bolton goaled it. Very very stiff if paid for holding the ball, possible went for incorrect disposal. The games i watched the umps were mega hot on players either dragging the ball in or getting the ball dragged under them than not trying to get rid of the ball. Some iffy calls there
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David Boon  Joined: 2/21/2007 Posts: 10,677 Location: Victoria
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I agree it's becoming a joke. They won't let a game play and are becoming far to influential on results. Like you said Rude, that deliberate wasn't there against McGuane, he had two Saints players around him and was under enormous pressure, play that 2 meters closer to the line and the ump would of called it a point. The rule that's probably my most hated at the moment is the holding the ball rule, it's becoming impossible for players to win the ball and hold it up. I remember numerous times both Saints players and Richmond players were pinged because they were the only ones that actually went for the ball, and then were immediately tackled, having no opportunity to even think about what they were going to do with the football, and got pinged. It's unfair and makes players question actually throwing there head over the footy and trying to get it.
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Arnold Palmer Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 14,309 Location: perth
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i have think the holding the ball is white hot atm adam selwood picked up the ball was grabbed before the ball passed his knees both arms pinned 4 blokes on top of him gone also the advantage rule is not consistant a bloke looks to go the other way its play on and he actually hasnt even moved yet  dont hate the player hate the game
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Alex Murphy  Joined: 11/4/2006 Posts: 4,203 Location: Dubbo NSW
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Nathan wrote:I agree it's becoming a joke. They won't let a game play and are becoming far to influential on results. Like you said Rude, that deliberate wasn't there against McGuane, he had two Saints players around him and was under enormous pressure, play that 2 meters closer to the line and the ump would of called it a point.
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Zinedine Zidane  Joined: 11/3/2009 Posts: 3,439 Location: always coasting..
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The Hardingham incident in the Swans/Bombers game was a joke and definitely cost Bombers the game. I heard the umpire yell holding....it wasn't for an incorrect disposal. They tolerated other players holding it for an age after being tackled. I kept waiting for the whistle which never came until the player and ball were buried. Ball up. Just want consistency.  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Arnold Palmer Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 14,309 Location: perth
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that decision didnt cost essendon anything they had plenty of chances to win the game dont hate the player hate the game
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Brian Lara Joined: 9/24/2005 Posts: 3,368 Location: Australia
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Hardingham holding the ball, thats the one I was thinking of Seb! I thought he clearly handballed in time and that decision was ridiculous. Have to agree with you guys on the holding the ball calls. It seems that they go into each season with an idea in their minds, a particular rule that they are too keen to enforce. In 09 it was the rule that you can't hold up a player after he disposes of the ball, this year its holding the ball/dragging it in. The advantage rule is all over the place. If its the players choice why are they still calling some free kicks back after the player decides to play on. And then the player doesnt even look like they want to play on (carried forward by momentum or whatever) yet the ref calls it play on. Inconsistent and terribly frustrating All we want as supporters is consistency
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Brian Lara Joined: 9/24/2005 Posts: 3,368 Location: Australia
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nivek48 wrote:Nathan wrote:I agree it's becoming a joke. They won't let a game play and are becoming far to influential on results. Like you said Rude, that deliberate wasn't there against McGuane, he had two Saints players around him and was under enormous pressure, play that 2 meters closer to the line and the ump would of called it a point.
AFL have said the McGuane one was wrong What good is admitting it was wrong after the fact? Do Richmond get any kind of compensation as a result? No. Players are suspended when they fuck up and it is made public, is it time for umpires to face the same scrutiny?
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Brian Lara Joined: 9/24/2005 Posts: 3,368 Location: Australia
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smiddy197 wrote:that decision didnt cost essendon anything
they had plenty of chances to win the game Nah thats bullshit Smiddy... If a free kick that wasnt there puts the opposition in front with limited time remaining in the game, then it definitely did contribute to costing them the game
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Alex Murphy Joined: 11/4/2006 Posts: 4,203 Location: Dubbo NSW
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RudeNuT wrote:nivek48 wrote:Nathan wrote:I agree it's becoming a joke. They won't let a game play and are becoming far to influential on results. Like you said Rude, that deliberate wasn't there against McGuane, he had two Saints players around him and was under enormous pressure, play that 2 meters closer to the line and the ump would of called it a point.
AFL have said the McGuane one was wrong What good is admitting it was wrong after the fact? Do Richmond get any kind of compensation as a result? No. Players are suspended when they fuck up and it is made public, is it time for umpires to face the same scrutiny? I'm pretty sure if the AFL see a clanger like that, that ump either sits out a week or heads to the bush, VFL or ammos - which means loss/reduce pay  ^^^^^^^**************************^^^^^^^
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Arnold Palmer Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 14,309 Location: perth
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RudeNuT wrote:smiddy197 wrote:that decision didnt cost essendon anything
they had plenty of chances to win the game Nah thats bullshit Smiddy... If a free kick that wasnt there puts the opposition in front with limited time remaining in the game, then it definitely did contribute to costing them the game they were in front by 4-5 goals 1 decision didnt cost essendon the game it was there own fault there are 50 decisions a game 1 doesnt cost them the game its a cop out they had plenty of opportunities to win that game dont hate the player hate the game
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Zinedine Zidane Joined: 11/3/2009 Posts: 3,439 Location: always coasting..
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smiddy197 wrote:RudeNuT wrote:smiddy197 wrote:that decision didnt cost essendon anything
they had plenty of chances to win the game Nah thats bullshit Smiddy... If a free kick that wasnt there puts the opposition in front with limited time remaining in the game, then it definitely did contribute to costing them the game they were in front by 4-5 goals 1 decision didnt cost essendon the game it was there own fault there are 50 decisions a game 1 doesnt cost them the game its a cop out they had plenty of opportunities to win that game Are you talking about the same Hardingham incident smiddy? It was in the last part of the game and put the Swans in front. Bombers then got one back but then the Swans goaled again. They weren'y 4-5 goals in front then.  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Arnold Palmer Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 14,309 Location: perth
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jujuno wrote:smiddy197 wrote:RudeNuT wrote:smiddy197 wrote:that decision didnt cost essendon anything
they had plenty of chances to win the game Nah thats bullshit Smiddy... If a free kick that wasnt there puts the opposition in front with limited time remaining in the game, then it definitely did contribute to costing them the game they were in front by 4-5 goals 1 decision didnt cost essendon the game it was there own fault there are 50 decisions a game 1 doesnt cost them the game its a cop out they had plenty of opportunities to win that game Are you talking about the same Hardingham incident smiddy? It was in the last part of the game and put the Swans in front. Bombers then got one back but then the Swans goaled again. They weren'y 4-5 goals in front then. i am talking about that incident you cant pin point 1 umpiring decision to costing a team a game the bombers were in front by 4-5 goals and let it slip by all of your assesments the eagles were royally robbed of a flag when leo barry(you star) took that mark ashley sampi's jumper is clearly being pulled violently that is a free kick anyday of the week but would u say that cost eagles a premiership of course not dont hate the player hate the game
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Brian Lara Joined: 9/24/2005 Posts: 3,368 Location: Australia
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Thought they were disgraceful in the showdown game last night Some ridiculous free kicks paid both ways, though overall I think Adelaide can count themselves lucky a few more times than Port.
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Arnold Palmer Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 14,309 Location: perth
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i think they have hit rock bottom the freo v dogs game was absolutely disgraceful shaun higgins kicked a ball with both feet a metre over the line and 2 boundary umpires were looking right at it add that to no push in the back then push in teh back there is no consistancy and u really dont know each time u go to a contest whether the men in fluro will pay something or not geish lift your game dont hate the player hate the game
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Zinedine Zidane Joined: 11/3/2009 Posts: 3,439 Location: always coasting..
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Lake also kicked from outside the boundary line. This is the latest irritation. Boundary umps may as well stay home. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Arnold Palmer Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 14,309 Location: perth
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jujuno wrote:
Lake also kicked from outside the boundary line.
This is the latest irritation.
Boundary umps may as well stay home.
my bad it was lake i was hammered by that stage there are 2 on each side 1 of them had to see it it was so obvious dont hate the player hate the game
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Arnold Palmer Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 14,309 Location: perth
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now the show stopper swans gave away a interchange infringement with 17 players on teh field!!!! the fucking muppet sore 4 players on the bench and goodes was coming on for hannerbry and they ref waves the flag and its game over for the swans little did the fuckwit know jessie white was getting treatment out of the eye of the fuckwit wavces flag takes momentum away from sydney champion data who monitor rotations has agreed with sydney fix this shit up anderson worst rule in footy dont hate the player hate the game
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Alex Murphy Joined: 11/4/2006 Posts: 4,203 Location: Dubbo NSW
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AFL says all good!  Swans not happy as for momentum - Blues had kicked last 3 before this incident ... but it wasnt good. Doesnt this i/c guy record who off/on ... he shoulda had on his papaer - one less on, hence 17 on field. ^^^^^^^**************************^^^^^^^
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Arnold Palmer Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 14,309 Location: perth
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swans say not all good they have vision to prove it i would be believing champion data not the afl since they monitor they changes not the investigators or some dipshit sitting on a chair with 2 flags in a bag which he canteven manage to take out of the bag to wave them dont hate the player hate the game
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Alex Murphy Joined: 11/4/2006 Posts: 4,203 Location: Dubbo NSW
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smiddy197 wrote:swans say not all good they have vision to prove it
i would be believing champion data not the afl since they monitor they changes not the investigators or some dipshit sitting on a chair with 2 flags in a bag which he canteven manage to take out of the bag to wave them yep - Sydney need go hard at the AFL here!  ^^^^^^^**************************^^^^^^^
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Arnold Palmer Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 14,309 Location: perth
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they admitted they made a blue rang coach and steward is stood down absolute muppets dont hate the player hate the game
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Alex Murphy Joined: 11/4/2006 Posts: 4,203 Location: Dubbo NSW
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smiddy197 wrote:they admitted they made a blue rang coach and steward is stood down
absolute muppets wow ... AFL admit to an error ...  next you'll be telling us that Eddie says Collingwood get a great deal from AFL and want to travel more??  ^^^^^^^**************************^^^^^^^
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