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leonzhou30
#1 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2012 3:21:22 PM
Jean Louis Ravello

Joined: 5/14/2012
Posts: 8
Location: China

 
Just joined WBX but seems I still can not play the bet here because I am in China Sad

My latest score is start from CNY200 and now reached CNY3800 by bet on soccer games in last 2 months.

Hope can make more friends here and I can publish some soccer game forecast here even I can not play. Very Happy

For tonight game

Albinoleffe vs. Verona

Bet on Verona @1.34 USD80.12
Bet on Draw @5.4 USD19.88

Then as long as Verona win the game, you can get USD107 back(bet 100 win 107). If draw, you can get back all your USD100 back no lose.
Cold Dog
#2 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2012 4:13:34 PM
Barack Obama


Joined: 9/20/2005
Posts: 16,516

 
Why bother? You're basically betting on a Draw No Bet market at $1.07, which is not much better than a term deposit...
leonzhou30
#3 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2012 4:23:57 PM
Jean Louis Ravello

Joined: 5/14/2012
Posts: 8
Location: China

 
be easier, we can directly bet on Lay - Albinoleffe at 13.5. The return rate is at 7.4%.

For 1 game the odds seems not attractive. But if you keep win. The return will be quite high.

See my last 2 months result, from CNY200 to CNY3800. 19 times increase. Maybe you can focus on my Accuracy firstSmile

I will post my forecast here everyday.
Cold Dog
#4 Posted : Monday, May 14, 2012 5:08:45 PM
Barack Obama


Joined: 9/20/2005
Posts: 16,516

 
Your "accuracy" is alleged at this point.

Don't get me wrong, I hope you win and wish you luck.

I just think it's funny to speak of a 19x increase but your first bet is at $1.07. Very Happy
leonzhou30
#5 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:35:41 PM
Jean Louis Ravello

Joined: 5/14/2012
Posts: 8
Location: China

 
Tonight can be Al Hilal vs. Al-Gharafa Lay on Al-Gharafa 17.5 now. Let's see when I lose the game Smile today is 1:1.05. If win your initial USD100 can be 100 x 1.07 x 1.05 = USD112.35 then
Lay Low21
#6 Posted : Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:07:59 PM
Steve Redgrave



Joined: 1/12/2007
Posts: 8,105
Location: isle of man

 
see CD, risk 200 dollars for a free bag of fish n chips.

it will all end in tears.

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jujuno
#7 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:31:18 AM
Zinedine Zidane


Joined: 11/3/2009
Posts: 3,438
Location: always coasting..

 
Lay Low21 wrote:
see CD, risk 200 dollars for a free bag of fish n chips.

it will all end in tears.


the odds to eventually losing are $1.01...

the draw is $1.02




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leonzhou30
#8 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 12:15:57 PM
Jean Louis Ravello

Joined: 5/14/2012
Posts: 8
Location: China

 
To me it's just like a game and I am still proving the formula for soccer gambling. Let's see when I will lose. Will keep posting my fosecast here. Till now there is no game worth to play tonight. Thanks for all your comments. Smile
leonzhou30
#9 Posted : Wednesday, May 16, 2012 3:07:16 PM
Jean Louis Ravello

Joined: 5/14/2012
Posts: 8
Location: China

 
Al Ittihad vs. Al-Arabi Lay on Arabi 13 with 1.08 odds.
jujuno
#10 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:29:05 AM
Zinedine Zidane


Joined: 11/3/2009
Posts: 3,438
Location: always coasting..

 
leonzhou30 wrote:
To me it's just like a game and I am still proving the formula for soccer gambling. Let's see when I will lose. Will keep posting my fosecast here. Till now there is no game worth to play tonight. Thanks for all your comments. Smile



I put $50 in an account..backed a racehorse winner every day for 141 days consecutively and ended up with $2,860...just for the sake of a challenge...very small bets so the risk was low...and no all-ups...

can't see the point in backing soccer at such short prices and risking all your "profits"...



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Lay Low21
#11 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 4:15:39 AM
Steve Redgrave



Joined: 1/12/2007
Posts: 8,105
Location: isle of man

 
Since mid january i have been working 6/8/10/12 hours and more a day, on an in - running database, i am assembling it on a course by course basis going back to mid 2004, i decluttered and repaired the data, the volume of which is ginormous, i have added trainer / jockey / going / and SP data to the basic market data from BF, my backup file is 2.3 gigabytes in size, i only kept data below 4.2 in price, and with above 50 pounds volume traded, there is no duplicate data in my backup files, theres around 8 million usable rows of data, after it is decluttered, i am working in excel prior to linking/joining all the data into one single database at a later stage, the reason i mention this is because i can now clearly see the period of 18 months or so, where i was laying the field in play at 1.03 every race, every day.

i profited by several thousand pounds before busting out.
i staked 6.66 to win 222 pounds every race, my bank was 1k, 150 stakes.

1.03 has never shown a per annum, en masse profit, since those early days of in-play, as a layer.
Technology put the boot on the other foot, still it was nice while it lasted mixed in along with abit of trading, and alittle punting.


there is no money to be made doing what this lad is doing, even IF he has a genuine edge, it will take several thousand bets to distinguish an edge from variance.

and at 100 dollars a pop, he could only ever hope for an EV of cents per bet.

at 1/20 \ 1.05 he needs a 95 percent S/Rate to breakeven.
even IF he could sustain a 96 percent strike rate over 1,000, 100 dollar bets, his EV per bet is below.

960 winners 4,800 dollars profit.
40 losers 4,000 dollars lost.

an EV of 80 cents per punt, he would stake 100,000 dollars in total, for 800 dollars profit.

however he is on the right track looking for a small long-term edge, imo
needs to re-assess, better to have a 2 percent edge at evens [2s] than a 20 percent edge at 1.05

1000, 100 dollar bets at evens with 2 percent edge.

510 winners 2000 dollars profit.
490 losers

an EV of 2 dollars per bet.


i think those figures are sound, but its 5.30 am here and im knackered.










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Well behaved women do not make history


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leonzhou30
#12 Posted : Thursday, May 17, 2012 2:52:48 PM
Jean Louis Ravello

Joined: 5/14/2012
Posts: 8
Location: China

 
sorry today is bit later, Rapid Vienna vs. Wacker Innsbruck lay on rapid vienna, 7 and return is 1.15, by yesterday my return now reached 112.35*1.08 = USD121.34
leonzhou30
#13 Posted : Sunday, May 20, 2012 2:28:34 PM
Jean Louis Ravello

Joined: 5/14/2012
Posts: 8
Location: China

 
tonight Lyon vs. Nice lay on Nice - 6.2, till now money in hand is USD139.54
Cold Dog
#14 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 7:33:50 AM
Barack Obama


Joined: 9/20/2005
Posts: 16,516

 
Boom. Bankroll gone. Leonzhou30 gone.

Quote:
Result: Lyon 3-4 Nice

By Michael Penkman, Reporter
Filed: Sunday, May 20, 2012 at 22:25 UK
Lyon have ended their Ligue 1 campaign on a drab note after falling to a 4-3 defeat against Nice.

The hosts went ahead in the 21st minute through Lisandro Lopez before Jimmy Briand grabbed the first of his two goals five minutes later.

The visitors were back on level terms before half time, however, through goals from Luciano Monzon and Kafoumba Coulibaly.

Nice took the lead for the first time after 53 minutes when Hugo Lloris could only turn the ball into his own net.

Jimmy Briand equalised in the 69th minute before Esmael Goncalves' goal decided matters in the 73rd minute.
Lay Low21
#15 Posted : Tuesday, May 22, 2012 1:00:36 PM
Steve Redgrave



Joined: 1/12/2007
Posts: 8,105
Location: isle of man

 
oops, now only another 1200 bucks or so, to risk, to win the 61 bucks deficit, to break-even.

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