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Peter Brock Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 12,206 Location: perth  
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CARLTON DRAUGHT-RAILWAY STAKES Group I - 3 YEARS OLD & UPWARDS Of: $1,000,000 (and trophies valued at $15,400); 1st: $627,900 (inc. trophies); 2nd: $200,000; 3rd: $90,000; 4th: $40,000; 5th: $20,000; 6th: $12,500; 7th: $12,500; 8th: $12,500 1600 Metres Minimum 50 kg No. Horse Bl St Br Wgt Rtg Rider Trainer 1 MEGATIC 0 57 111 PATRICK CARBERY ALBIE BECKETT 2 SNIPER'S BULLET B 0 56.5 110 NASH RAWILLER TRACEY BARTLEY 3 ALL AMERICAN B 0 56 109 COREY BROWN DAVID HAYES 4 GOLD SALUTE X 0 55.5 108 DAMIEN OLIVER MARK A. RILEY 5 LARGO LAD 0 54 105 GLEN BOSS DAVID HAYES 6 ORTENSIA 0 53.5 104 CRAIG WILLIAMS TONY NOONAN 7 TARZI 0 53 103 PAUL HARVEY NEVILLE PARNHAM 8 COLOUR CORRECT 0 52 84 ROSS PRICE 9 ELLIOTTO 0 52 101 NEVILLE PARNHAM 10 FAMOUS ROMAN B 0 52 101 JASON WHITING KEN WILLIAMSON 11 GRAND NIRVANA B 0 52 100 DANIEL STAECK FRED KERSLEY 12 KASABIAN 0 52 95 SHAUN O'DONNELL DARREN MC AULIFFE 13 KEYTOMONEY 0 52 101 WILLIAM PIKE MICHAEL LANE 14 LORDS RANSOM 0 52 100 ALAN KENNEDY ADAM DURRANT 15 OROYA GOLD 0 52 91 DANIEL MORTON 16 SPIRITED ONE 0 52 93 PETER KNUCKEY PAULA WAGG 17 LAMBTON CASTLE B E1 0 52 88 LINDSEY SMITH 18 COCONUT GROVE E2 0 52 78 TONY NOONAN  dont hate the player hate the game
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Wasim Akram  Joined: 4/30/2007 Posts: 1,984 Location: Oona Whoop Whoop
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Liking Grand Nirvana at the moment. Keytomoney my roughie. Sniper's Bullet likes Ascot and looks the best raider to me.  Kit is the Main Man Go The Tigers Eat 'em Alive.
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Peter Brock Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 12,206 Location: perth
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big storey is that lambton castle got balloted for colour correct thats a joke i think gold statue will be winning atm grand nirvana couldnt beat 2 horses i dont think should even be in the field i cant see him winning dont hate the player hate the game
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David Boon  Joined: 2/21/2007 Posts: 10,540 Location: Victoria
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I'm loving Saintly's girl, Ortensia. She'll be close to spot on this before freshening up for an overseas stint.
She wasn't given a chance last start, got out too late and the winner was belong side her by then. Get her out the top of the straight and she would of sprang away and made it to hard for them.
She gets in with a very nice weight, and lets be honest, it's not a real great field. Gilded Venom, Niconero and Bank Robber would of put shame to most of these. She'll love the mile, and i keep on thinking about her Stradbroke run, she was great that day and took on twice as good as field. Too good.
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Peter Brock Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 12,206 Location: perth
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she hasnt been beating much of late and is .5 off gold stature i have all american ahead of her dont hate the player hate the game
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David Boon Joined: 2/21/2007 Posts: 10,540 Location: Victoria
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All American goes up 2.5kg off his Emirates win, he had every thing to suit that day. Noonan wouldn't want to take her overseas for G1's if she wasn't a very good horse.
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Peter Brock Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 12,206 Location: perth
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"Nathan"All American goes up 2.5kg off his Emirates win, he had every thing to suit that day. Noonan wouldn't want to take her overseas for G1's if she wasn't a very good horse. she hasnt beat that much of late nath ill be happy to let her go around gold stature will have my money unless it draws the river dont hate the player hate the game
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Wasim Akram Joined: 4/30/2007 Posts: 1,984 Location: Oona Whoop Whoop
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Grand Nirvana never had the best of passages. I liked his run considering and think he is the best chance of our lot. Kit is the Main Man Go The Tigers Eat 'em Alive.
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Peter Brock Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 12,206 Location: perth
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i think kasabian is the best of ours i will have a saver on him dont hate the player hate the game
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Wasim Akram Joined: 4/30/2007 Posts: 1,984 Location: Oona Whoop Whoop
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Agree that Kasabian is a big chance as well and I like the idea of a local victory. Kit is the Main Man Go The Tigers Eat 'em Alive.
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David Boon Joined: 2/21/2007 Posts: 10,540 Location: Victoria
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"smiddy197""Nathan"All American goes up 2.5kg off his Emirates win, he had every thing to suit that day. Noonan wouldn't want to take her overseas for G1's if she wasn't a very good horse. she hasnt beat that much of late nath ill be happy to let her go around gold stature will have my money unless it draws the river Well she hasn't beaten anything. But she was a cert beaten last start IMO and before that ran against the best sprinters in the land and was very unlucky not to go close in the Schweppes. That form is pretty damn good. Gold Salute is a top horse, very consistent yet may be just 2 or 3 lengths off the real G1 horses at there best. Good luck anyway mate. 
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David Boon  Joined: 1/14/2007 Posts: 10,767 Location: Unknown, in witness relocation
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I am with Nathan, Ortensia wins.  Banner by Pooc!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuk6e5hEeYI
If you want a second opinion, ask me again. Voted 121 Australian Racing Forum best tipster 2009!!! EPL tipping champ 2009!!
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Peter Brock Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 12,206 Location: perth
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"saintly96"I am with Nathan, Ortensia wins. i hada fortune on her last start she wouldnt of won if she got out sooner she can beat fillies and mares she wont win a open g1 over 1600 dont hate the player hate the game
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Peter Brock Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 12,206 Location: perth
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barrier draw word is ortensia to scratch and run in winterbottom since it cant run a 1600m and is drawn very wide kasabian and gold salute draw perfect im a happy boy CARLTON DRAUGHT-RAILWAY STAKES Group I - 3 YEARS OLD and UPWARDS $1,000,000 No Horse Bar Jockey Trainer 1 MEGATIC 11 57 PATRICK CARBERY ALBIE BECKETT 2 SNIPER'S BULLET 14 56.5 NASH RAWILLER TRACEY BARTLEY 3 ALL AMERICAN 2 56 COREY BROWN DAVID HAYES 4 GOLD SALUTE 7 55.5 DAMIEN OLIVER MARK A. RILEY 5 LARGO LAD 10 54 GLEN BOSS DAVID HAYES 6 ORTENSIA 13 53.5 CRAIG WILLIAMS TONY NOONAN 7 TARZI 4 53 PAUL HARVEY NEVILLE PARNHAM 8 COLOUR CORRECT 17 52 JASON BROWN ROSS PRICE 9 ELLIOTTO 1 52 STEVEN PARNHAM NEVILLE PARNHAM 10 FAMOUS ROMAN 3 52 JASON WHITING KEN WILLIAMSON 11 GRAND NIRVANA 12 52 DANIEL STAECK FRED KERSLEY 12 KASABIAN 5 52 SHAUN O'DONNELL DARREN MC AULIFFE 13 KEYTOMONEY 16 52 WILLIAM PIKE MICHAEL LANE 14 LORDS RANSOM 8 52 ALAN KENNEDY ADAM DURRANT 15 OROYA GOLD 13 52 TROY TURNER DANIEL MORTON 16 SPIRITED ONE 6 52 PETER KNUCKEY PAULA WAGG 17 LAMBTON CASTLE 18 52 LINDSEY SMITH 18 COCONUT GROVE 9 52 TONY NOONAN dont hate the player hate the game
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David Boon Joined: 1/14/2007 Posts: 10,767 Location: Unknown, in witness relocation
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Tuesday, 17 November 2009: Smart Victorian mare Ortensia is likely to take her place in Saturday's Group 1 Railway Stakes after her workout in Perth this morning. Trainer Tony Noonan said he is yet to make up his mind to running the mare in this weekend's race or next weekend's Winterbottom Stakes. The mare is yet to race at a mile but in her work today, though, according to Noonan, seemingly settled well enough and is likely to start in this weekend's rich feature race. Following this morning's barrier draw, where Ortensia drew barrier 13, she remained firm at her $8.00 quote, along with Grand Nirvana on the third line of betting. Gold Salute has tightened his grip on favouritism to $4.50 after drawing well in barrier seven, while All American also firmed to $7.00 with his draw of barrier two. $1 MILLION GROUP 1 CARLTON DRAUGHT RAILWAY STAKES (1600M) 1 MEGATIC ALBIE BECKETT PATRICK CARBERY 11 57 2 SNIPER'S BULLET TRACEY BARTLEY NASH RAWILLER 14 56.5 3 ALL AMERICAN DAVID HAYES COREY BROWN 2 56 4 GOLD SALUTE MARK A. RILEY DAMIEN OLIVER 7 55.5 5 LARGO LAD DAVID HAYES GLEN BOSS 10 54 6 ORTENSIA TONY NOONAN CRAIG WILLIAMS 13 53.5 7 TARZI NEVILLE PARNHAM PAUL HARVEY 4 53 8 COLOUR CORRECT ROSS PRICE JASON BROWN 17 52 9 ELLIOTTO NEVILLE PARNHAM STEVEN PARNHAM 1 52 10 FAMOUS ROMAN KEN WILLIAMSON JASON WHITING 3 52 11 GRAND NIRVANA FRED KERSLEY DANIEL STAECK 12 52 12 KASABIAN DARREN MC AULIFFE SHAUN O'DONNELL 5 52 13 KEYTOMONEY MICHAEL LANE WILLIAM PIKE 16 52 14 LORDS RANSOM ADAM DURRANT ALAN KENNEDY 8 52 15 OROYA GOLD DANIEL MORTON TROY TURNER 15 52 16 SPIRITED ONE PAULA WAGG PETER KNUCKEY 6 52 17 LAMBTON CASTLE (EM) LINDSEY SMITH 18 52 18 COCONUT GROVE (EM) TONY NOONAN 9 52 Banner by Pooc!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuk6e5hEeYI
If you want a second opinion, ask me again. Voted 121 Australian Racing Forum best tipster 2009!!! EPL tipping champ 2009!!
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Peter Brock Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 12,206 Location: perth
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i will lay her all day i reckon she is a monty if she ran in the winterbottom dont hate the player hate the game
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Peter Brock Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 12,206 Location: perth
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massive blue from noonan he said he is running her in both railway and winterbottom she will now win niether dont hate the player hate the game
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Linghui Kong Joined: 10/31/2006 Posts: 867
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"smiddy197"massive blue from noonan he said he is running her in both railway and winterbottom
she will now win niether She is still a serious horse smiddy! If you take away the run on cup day and go on her close finish behind the cat, micmac, bank robber etc she is top class. On cup day it was a graveyard for favourites, id forget she ran and go on her previous form. We saw her get beat by dorf command in sydney as a short priced fav. She is a serious chance in this i would have thought. Just a bit concerned hearing that a few of the vics were left in the heat on the tarmac for a few hours, hopefully fully recovered!
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Peter Brock Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 12,206 Location: perth
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"OmaghGodhesGood""smiddy197"massive blue from noonan he said he is running her in both railway and winterbottom
she will now win niether She is still a serious horse smiddy! If you take away the run on cup day and go on her close finish behind the cat, micmac, bank robber etc she is top class. On cup day it was a graveyard for favourites, id forget she ran and go on her previous form. We saw her get beat by dorf command in sydney as a short priced fav. She is a serious chance in this i would have thought. Just a bit concerned hearing that a few of the vics were left in the heat on the tarmac for a few hours, hopefully fully recovered! thats 1200m at the valley is so far away from a rock hard track at 1600m at ascot which she has never run over i think she has no chance the true milers have her covered quite easily she should of gone the 1200m she cant win that running in the railway dont hate the player hate the game
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Peter Brock Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 12,206 Location: perth
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KASABIAN SCR im pissed there is the pace gone in the race i have to reassess everything dont hate the player hate the game
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David Boon Joined: 1/14/2007 Posts: 10,767 Location: Unknown, in witness relocation
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Ortensia's 1400m form is pretty good. She had Romneya, Sugar Babe and bugeis covered quite easily in the Thousand Guineas Prelude last year. Ran a teriffic race in the Stradbroke. Of course she is a slight query (they all are until they have done it) over the distance, but I think she will handle it. With little obvious pace, she can get across and take a nice sit, and should look the winner at some stage in the straight (even if she does not win). I think she will go super. If she stays @ 8's, I will definitely have a lash. Banner by Pooc!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuk6e5hEeYI
If you want a second opinion, ask me again. Voted 121 Australian Racing Forum best tipster 2009!!! EPL tipping champ 2009!!
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Peter Brock Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 12,206 Location: perth
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"saintly96"Ortensia's 1400m form is pretty good. She had Romneya, Sugar Babe and bugeis covered quite easily in the Thousand Guineas Prelude last year. Ran a teriffic race in the Stradbroke. Of course she is a slight query (they all are until they have done it) over the distance, but I think she will handle it. With little obvious pace, she can get across and take a nice sit, and should look the winner at some stage in the straight (even if she does not win). I think she will go super. If she stays @ 8's, I will definitely have a lash. romneya sugar babe and bugies wouldnt even be close to compettitve in t his field i think there will be pace someone will take it up since ascott is leader bias big time when the rail goes back to the true dont hate the player hate the game
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Ingemar Stenmark  Joined: 12/8/2005 Posts: 3,253
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ortensia cant get a strong 1600m and wont win. gold salute is the certainty of all time. i will go hard on this one. barriers have cost it enormous prizemoney this time in. the money jockey is on board now too. Knowledge is power, ignorance is death
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David Boon Joined: 1/14/2007 Posts: 10,767 Location: Unknown, in witness relocation
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Thursday, 19 November 2009: Victorian galloper Gold Salute has been sensationally backed to win Saturday's $1 million Group 1 Railway Stakes at Ascot. The Mark Riley trained gelding is not only looking to break his Group 1 duck but break a drought for interstate horses in the race with Slavonic a decade ago being the last visiting winner. But if money is anything to go by punters are confident Gold Salute can bring up a win with bets pouring in for the gelding since the barrier draw on Tuesday. After Gold Salute was as much as $5 prior to the draw he has continued to firm to $3.00 with TAB Sportsbet reporting $40,000 of bets on the galloper alone today. Fellow Victorians All American and Ortensia share the second line of betting at $7.50. AAP Banner by Pooc!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fuk6e5hEeYI
If you want a second opinion, ask me again. Voted 121 Australian Racing Forum best tipster 2009!!! EPL tipping champ 2009!!
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Peter Brock Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 12,206 Location: perth
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i wont be backing it at $3 dont hate the player hate the game
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