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Alex Murphy  Joined: 11/4/2006 Posts: 4,201 Location: Dubbo NSW  
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jvalles69 wrote:smiddy197 wrote:he is a gun i didnt mind barlow either but i think small forwards eg porpi and mini porpi are harder to come by
and i would never pick the rapist Other guys that come to mind are: Kade Simpson Jude Bolton Andrew Carrazo Shane Tuck Daniel Wells? ^^^^^^^**************************^^^^^^^
Kochie, KT, Ken, KO ... getting it right! #weareportadelaide
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Ian Thorpe  Joined: 1/18/2007 Posts: 5,789
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Team Seb
B G. Broughton T. Pears W. Schofield
HB L. Hodge L. McPharlin C. Enright
C S. Thompson(ade)L. Ball J. Corey
HF P. Chapman M. Pavlich M. Rischitelli
F N. Naitanui J. Riewoldt T. Varcoe
R Mumford C. Judd L. Picken
Int H. Hocking S. Hill Wojcinski
Sub L. Shiels
Pretty happy with this team. Full back line maybe a little shaky but I trust Pears to get the job done. Btw my centreline should read Corey - S. Thompson - Ball.
Only change i'd maybe make is to fit in an extra tall forward (not Naitanui). Picken or Hocking to make way
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Alex Murphy Joined: 11/4/2006 Posts: 4,201 Location: Dubbo NSW
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Warpants wrote:
Team Nivek
B J. Hunt D. Merrett G. Johncock
HB G. Birchall B. Reid H. O'Brien
C D. Heppell A. Swallow J. Bartel
HF C. Rioli J. Roughead D. Menzel
F A. Walker T. Cloke S. Milne
R D. Jolly S. Pendlebury D. Kerr
Int C. Ling R. Griffen R. Gray
Sub A. Didak
looks ok ... maybe a better FB and a tall ruck type rather than Walker? ^^^^^^^**************************^^^^^^^
Kochie, KT, Ken, KO ... getting it right! #weareportadelaide
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Alex Murphy Joined: 11/4/2006 Posts: 4,201 Location: Dubbo NSW
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Ok - we've all picked - what now? ... Are there trade rules? ^^^^^^^**************************^^^^^^^
Kochie, KT, Ken, KO ... getting it right! #weareportadelaide
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Brian Lara  Joined: 8/24/2006 Posts: 3,317 Location: Holidays
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Dunno. It was really just for the sake of doing it. Something to amuse ourselves with.
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Arnold Palmer Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 14,306 Location: perth
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my team will wipe the floor with most of the teams but i need to trade out a few midfielders to strengthen fwd  dont hate the player hate the game
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Zinedine Zidane  Joined: 11/3/2009 Posts: 3,438 Location: always coasting..
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smiddy197 wrote:my team will wipe the floor with most of the teams but i need to trade out a few midfielders to strengthen fwd notice you said "most teams" mine would be a definite contender for best team...only weakness is on the bench.. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hot Pies and Mustard
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Arnold Palmer Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 14,306 Location: perth
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jujuno wrote:smiddy197 wrote:my team will wipe the floor with most of the teams but i need to trade out a few midfielders to strengthen fwd notice you said "most teams" mine would be a definite contender for best team...only weakness is on the bench.. i have like hayes boyd and luey with shueperman as the sub that is a starting gun onball division any side would love to have dont hate the player hate the game
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Zinedine Zidane Joined: 11/3/2009 Posts: 3,438 Location: always coasting..
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smiddy197 wrote:jujuno wrote:smiddy197 wrote:my team will wipe the floor with most of the teams but i need to trade out a few midfielders to strengthen fwd notice you said "most teams" mine would be a definite contender for best team...only weakness is on the bench.. i have like hayes boyd and luey with shueperman as the sub that is a starting gun onball division any side would love to have bet a few real teams wouldn't mind my rovers Cox, Swan and Montagna in their lineup. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Zinedine Zidane Joined: 11/3/2009 Posts: 3,438 Location: always coasting..
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Phil Taylor  Joined: 5/26/2006 Posts: 2,598 Location: Perth WA
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Thought we were picking a team to win the flag right now, in that case I reckon MY team is setup to do it with experience and discipline. Smidd's is def has the most talented individuals, but that don't make it the best TEAM. I think warpants should write up a review of each team, I might do my own too when I get the chance. All the teams are cream of the crop, but think the other 3 were picked based on heart rather than brains.
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Zinedine Zidane Joined: 11/3/2009 Posts: 3,438 Location: always coasting..
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jvalles69 wrote:Thought we were picking a team to win the flag right now, in that case I reckon MY team is setup to do it with experience and discipline. Smidd's is def has the most talented individuals, but that don't make it the best TEAM. I think warpants should write up a review of each team, I might do my own too when I get the chance. All the teams are cream of the crop, but think the other 3 were picked based on heart rather than brains. If mine was picked on heart there would have been eighteen Pies players in... I thought my team balanced out pretty well with a lot of in-form players...enough talls and a very mobile defensive six...good blend of talented youth with Martin, Rockliff and Dahlhaus, experience with Dal Santo, Shaw and O'Keefe, and LeCras, Harvey, Kennedy and the JPod banging in the goals. I liked the idea of pushing Deledio closer to the action as well... only Warnock and King were disappointing...I would replace them with Cam Wood and Dayne Beams...(talking from the heart) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Zinedine Zidane Joined: 11/3/2009 Posts: 3,438 Location: always coasting..
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jvalles69 wrote:Thought we were picking a team to win the flag right now, in that case I reckon MY team is setup to do it with experience and discipline. Smidd's is def has the most talented individuals, but that don't make it the best TEAM. I think warpants should write up a review of each team, I might do my own too when I get the chance. All the teams are cream of the crop, but think the other 3 were picked based on heart rather than brains. the only player I would like to snitch from your team is Daisy...people don't realise the impact he has on the Pies midfield...he covers a mile of territory and his defence is vital...while I may not agree with Robert Walls that he is the best player in the AFL, he would be in the top ten easy... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Brian Lara Joined: 8/24/2006 Posts: 3,317 Location: Holidays
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jujuno wrote:jvalles69 wrote:Thought we were picking a team to win the flag right now, in that case I reckon MY team is setup to do it with experience and discipline. Smidd's is def has the most talented individuals, but that don't make it the best TEAM. I think warpants should write up a review of each team, I might do my own too when I get the chance. All the teams are cream of the crop, but think the other 3 were picked based on heart rather than brains. the only player I would like to snitch from your team is Daisy...people don't realise the impact he has on the Pies midfield...he covers a mile of territory and his defence is vital...while I may not agree with Robert Walls that he is the best player in the AFL, he would be in the top ten easy... I reckon top 15 for daisy. Let me right up my reviews of the team and do my ratings
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Phil Taylor Joined: 5/26/2006 Posts: 2,598 Location: Perth WA
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There are 10 better players in the afl than daisy, maybe in another year or 2 when he strings together seasons can he be considered top 10.
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Brian Lara Joined: 8/24/2006 Posts: 3,317 Location: Holidays
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Team Smitty
B J. Frawley M. Scarlett C. Yarran
HB S. Fisher C. Tarrant B. Goddard
C L. Hayes S. Mitchell M. Boyd
HF S. Selwood B. Franklin T. Cotchin
F A. Goodes C. Dawes A. Schneider
R T. Goldstein S. Black G. Ablett
Int K. Jack B. Waters L. Shuey
Sub M. Leuenberger
Backline – 9 – Great rebounders and can also shut up shop with Tarrant, Scarlett, Frawley and Waters.
Midfield – 8 – Pure class, but Goldy and Luey are rucking to a slow engine of inside players.
Forward – 8 - Great balance, but if Franklin or Goodes went down it would probably struggle with the other teams backlines.
X-Factor – 10 - A team with Buddy, Goodes and Ablett three of the most dynamic stars of our era. Just missing Judd. With Judd i would of gave an 11.
Team Jvalles
B A. Carlile D. Glass C. Newman
HB H. Scotland A. Silvagni B. Gibbs
C D. Mundy J. Redden K M. Murphy
HF N. Fyfe N. Riewoldt D. Thomas
F S. Johnson J. Brown J. Waite
R A. Sandilands J. Watson J. Selwood
Int K. Tippett M. Hurley B. Green
Sub K. Cornes
Backline – 8 – Good combination of height and with Hurley on the bench as the swingman they can cover most forwardlines. A solid no-frills backline with classy passers.
Midfield – 9 – Another great combination of players – if Sandilands was 100% and rucking to Jobe and J Selwood who could go out to Mundy and Murphy it would work superbly.
Forward – 8.5 – Pretty top heavy with Riewoldt, Waite and John Brown, but with Daisy and Stevie J at their feet they’ll always be in the contest. Will stretch backlines.
X-Factor – 7 - A forward line with Fyfe and Stevie J will be hard to match up on, but these players can go through slow patches.
Team Juno
B R. Murphy T. Richards J. Adcock
HB N. Bock H. Taylor H. Shaw
C D. Martin N. Dal Santo T. Rockcliff
HF M. LeCras J. Podsiadly B. Delidio
F B. Harvey J. Kennedy R. O'Keefe
R D. Cox D. Swan L. Montagna
Int L. Dahlhaus R. Warnock S. Wellingham
Sub J. King
Backline – 7 – A solid back 6, will defend well, but it would struggle with any forward line here. Only Heater will hurt on the rebound.
Midfield – 8.5 – I like this midfield and if Joey was playing with last years form I would of put it up to 9. Big Coxy getting to ruck to the always running Swanny and NDS with Joey and Martin who are beaut kicks. Poetry.
Forward – 8.5 – If O’Keefe was playing more games like the one against the saints I would mark it up higher. A strong contested marking line with LeCras and Harvey as the small men. Would work well. A champion forward line, rather than a forward line of champs.
X-Factor – 6 – Hurt by a weak bench, Dustin Martin is a big X-Factor in this team. If he is firing he could go forward and get a bag, and if he is fed by the accumulators he doesn’t get to play with at the tiggies he could cause major troubles.
Team Seb
B G. Broughton T. Pears W. Schofield
HB L. Hodge L. McPharlin C. Enright
C J. Corey S. Thompson(ade)L. Ball
HF P. Chapman M. Pavlich M. Rischitelli
F N. Naitanui J. Riewoldt T. Varcoe
R Mumford C. Judd L. Picken
Int H. Hocking S. Hill Wojcinski
Sub L. Shiels
Backline – 8.5 – A great combo of stoppers and attacking defenders, and with Wojo on the bench who can inject kamikaze-style pace and push Hodge up the ground this could
Midfield – 9 – A perfect midfield. Two rucking midfielders in Nic Nat or Mumford, depending on what style is needed, Rucking to Thompson, Juddy and Ball, with Joel Corey and Stephen Hill on the outside. And the bullish Hocking and Picken. Very Versatile can go classy or just smash through.
Forward –7.5 – A bad year for pav hurts the team and with Jack and T Riewoldt they can disappear for halves at a time. Old Teac and Chapman are probably the most consistent
X-Factor – 9 – Judd and Nic Nat are pure, undiluted x-factor. They are the cocaine of the 70s.
Team Nivek
B J. Hunt D. Merrett G. Johncock
HB G. Birchall B. Reid H. O'Brien
C D. Heppell A. Swallow J. Bartel
HF C. Rioli J. Roughead D. Menzel
F T. Cloke A. Walker S. Milne
R D. Jolly S. Pendlebury D. Kerr
Int C. Ling R. Griffen R. Gray
Sub A. Didak
Backline – 8 – A few good men. Reid and Merrett are top class defenders, this defence will have to rely on structure as they would be beaten 1 on 1, luckily all bar johncock (great name!!) play in a very structured team so it would work.
Midfield – 8 - Probably a little weak in the rucking division, actually it is definitely a little weak in that area. But with a long bench of good midfielders they could run their guts out and tag in equally effective middies. Saved by long bench.
Forward – 8 - This line will kick a LOT of goals. Probably get the most shots on goal, but could struggle with accuracy on a bad day.
X-Factor – 8 – All eights!!! Rioli, Milne and Menzel could blitz teams on their day. They could be unstoppable.. or they might as well not show up. This group is a gamble.
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Brian Lara Joined: 8/24/2006 Posts: 3,317 Location: Holidays
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jvalles69 wrote:There are 10 better players in the afl than daisy, maybe in another year or 2 when he strings together seasons can he be considered top 10. I agree, he had a patch where everything he touched turned to gold, and would love him on my team. But he isn't a top 10 player. I would say these guys are above him. Ablett Goodes Judd Mitchell Cox Pendles Franklin Boyd Murphy Thompson Chapman Hodge
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Brian Lara Joined: 8/24/2006 Posts: 3,317 Location: Holidays
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Just want to make it clear that the numbers above are just my opinion and i don't mind if you disagree with what I have. I'm a fan, not an expert.
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Phil Taylor Joined: 5/26/2006 Posts: 2,598 Location: Perth WA
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Warpants wrote:Just want to make it clear that the numbers above are just my opinion and i don't mind if you disagree with what I have. I'm a fan, not an expert. Had a crack at trying to figure a way of rating them and it was too hard, all the teams would do pretty damn well. Maybe when I have some time I will rate it as a DT side with each players average DT points and what their total weekly score would be from the latest season that they played more than 15 games, otherwise injury stricken players will bring the average down. Maybe someone could use SC to rate the teams and another could use individual honours (ie AA, club champ etc), total individual brownlow votes. Lots of fun ways, but time consuming ways of measuring their output.
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Phil Taylor Joined: 5/26/2006 Posts: 2,598 Location: Perth WA
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DT rating. Rule was they had to play over 10 games this season and I went back till I got to a year where they did play over 10 games. Used only the players on the field, no I/C or sub as their scores would not count in a true DT. No point in making a double point captain either. Final scores are down the bottome! Team Smitty B J. Frawley(69) M. Scarlett(69) C. Yarran(73) HB S. Fisher(84) C. Tarrant(37) B. Goddard(96) C L. Hayes(108)* S. Mitchell(112) M. Boyd(116) HF S. Selwood(87) B. Franklin(102) T. Cotchin(94) F A. Goodes(99) C. Dawes(72) A. Schneider(79) R T. Goldstein(99) S. Black(91) G. Ablett(112) Int K. Jack(78) B. Waters(68) L. Shuey(83) Sub M. Leuenberger(93) Team Jvalles B A. Carlile(52) D. Glass(46) C. Newman(78) HB H. Scotland(100) A. Silvagni(62) B. Gibbs(107) C D. Mundy(96) J. Redden(109) K M. Murphy(111) HF N. Fyfe(98) N. Riewoldt(84) D. Thomas(103) F S. Johnson(107) J. Brown(87)* J. Waite(72) R A. Sandilands(95) J. Watson(100) J. Selwood(109) Int K. Tippett(71) M. Hurley(70) B. Green(78) Sub K. Cornes(79) Team Juno B R. Murphy(75) T. Richards(59) J. Adcock(84) HB N. Bock(80) H. Taylor(65) H. Shaw(92) C D. Martin(89) N. Dal Santo(104) T. Rockcliff(112) HF M. LeCras(86) J. Podsiadly(74) B. Delidio(91) F B. Harvey(88) J. Kennedy(79) R. O'Keefe(93) R D. Cox(108) D. Swan(121) L. Montagna(98) Int L. Dahlhaus(64) R. Warnock(73) S. Wellingham(79) Sub J. King(56) Team Seb B G. Broughton(84) T. Pears(54)* W. Schofield(50) HB L. Hodge(94) L. McPharlin(64) C. Enright(92) C J. Corey(92) S. Thompson(109)L. Ball(96) HF P. Chapman(102) M. Pavlich(94) M. Rischitelli(96) F N. Naitanui(75) J. Riewoldt(70) T. Varcoe(65) R Mumford(91) C. Judd(102) L. Picken(65) Int H. Hocking(88) S. Hill(66) Wojcinski(60) Sub L. Shiels(103) Team Nivek B J. Hunt(65) D. Merrett(49) G. Johncock(70) HB G. Birchall(90) B. Reid(67) H. O'Brien(62) C D. Heppell(84) A. Swallow(99) J. Bartel(97) HF C. Rioli(87) J. Roughead(84) D. Menzel(64) F T. Cloke(96) A. Walker(76) S. Milne(72) R D. Jolly(75) S. Pendlebury(117) D. Kerr(75) Int C. Ling(89) R. Griffen(98) R. Gray(81) Sub A. Didak(74) Team Smiddy - 1599 (5 tons) Team Jvalles - 1616 (8 tons)Team Juno - 1598 (4 tons) Team Seb - 1495 (3 tons) Team Nivek - 1429 (1 ton) Winner winner chicken dinner! 
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Brian Lara Joined: 8/24/2006 Posts: 3,317 Location: Holidays
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Good stuff. It's alot of work. I was thinking about putting all players into a category e.g. Inside Mid, Tall Defender and then picking three key stats each - e.g.
Inside Mid - average contested possies + average handballs + ave tackles {multiply by effective disposals (70% = 0.70)}
The bit in the bracket should scale the player down to match a small def using the stats below.
Small Def - ave r50 + ave kicks + ave clearances
Any thoughts or suggestions?
How about you guys think of 4 average stats needed for the following afl stereotypes
Stat types (all averages)
Kicks
Handball
Contested
Uncontested
Marks
C Marks
Marks in50
Hitouts
inside 50s
rebound 50s
frees for
tackles
goals
behinds
goal assists
1%ers
Bounces
Player types
Tall Def
Small Def
Ruck
In Mid
Out Mid
Small Forward
Tall Forward
This project may take a while, but it should be worthwhile.
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Arnold Palmer Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 14,306 Location: perth
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wp you obviously havent seen luey or goldy much this year they both dominated goldy will be AA on the bench i reckon and luey is a running machine he is cox phase 2 mi midfield is the best part of why whole team ablett black boyd hayes goddard cotchin mitchell shuey jack ive got the perfect mix and taggers runners and clearance kings dont hate the player hate the game
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Arnold Palmer Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 14,306 Location: perth
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got solid key back 3 of them a good tagger and good spare men rebounder and a solid defensive forward as well as any of 5 forwards who can kick a bag on there day dont hate the player hate the game
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Arnold Palmer Joined: 12/14/2006 Posts: 14,306 Location: perth
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DT isnt a good guide no one would have a backline like they have dont hate the player hate the game
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Phil Taylor Joined: 5/26/2006 Posts: 2,598 Location: Perth WA
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smiddy197 wrote:DT isnt a good guide no one would have a backline like they have Its all in good fun mate.
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